Kirk Herbstreit called it a “perfect storm of emotion” a day after he went viral for crying on an ESPN broadcast following Ohio State’s CFP national championship win over Notre Dame. The college football analyst joined “The Pat McAfee Show,” and was asked about the moment. Herbstreit revealed it was a tough personal year for his family.

The Buckeyes beat Notre Dame, 34-23, in the national title game. After the game, Herbstreit broke down into tears when talking about how inspiring this Ohio State run through the playoff was after losing to Michigan earlier in the season. That would be all well and good, except for the fact that Herbstreit played quarterback for OSU from 1989-1993.